[WF-General] NEEDED: Screenshot Collector

Hans Häggström hans.haggstrom at Helsinki.FI
Fri Aug 24 00:26:18 PDT 2001

Lainaus "John R. Sheets" <jsheets at mccaawebster.com>:

> Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > > However, I'm stuck on what features that should form the
> 'milestones' that
> > > are screenshotted.
> As Bryce sort of implied, it's best to keep these concrete.  If we're
> going to
> stick with seven (which I think is a good idea), we should make sure
> these seven
> are fundamental milestones in client development, and are evenly spread
> throughout
> a client's development cycle.  It'd be kinda lame if you could implement
> 5 of the 7
> features in a single afternoon (unless you're developing on silence-py,
> errhum).
> Lessee.  Here are some distinct, noteworthy milestones (in semi-random
> order):
> 1) Landscape (map rendering)
> 2) Chat (login and chat)
> 3) Characters (loading and moving a character around)
> 4) Buildings (distinction between inside/outside)
> 5) Inventory (buying, selling, selecting items)
> 6) Combat (weapons, magic, etc.)
> 7) Special Effects (weather, lighting, etc.)

Oh, these are very good!  
I'll update the page when I get an opportunity.

However, isn't the order of the first two usually reversed?
For proper landscape, we need a working map server, terrain engine, etc.

Chat and login is usually what gets done first.

Another significant step that I can think of is crafting different items, or 
designing building houses, or generally editing or manipulating in-game items 
in some separate dialog or overlayed on top of the view.  But this probably 
falls into the 'just a dialog' category, so it wouldn't necessary produce any 
showy screenshots.  Overall I'm happy with the above list, the UI and crafting 
can be shown off on the actual screenshots page.

> Think of it as a mutated version of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.  (c; 
> And of
> course, some of the higher features will have to wait on server-side
> support, but
> the very presence of them will help show where we intend to go.

Good analogy.

> > If by Communication you mean Chat, that can be implied on the Movement
> > screen by having a little discussion in the chat box.  Chat and
> movement
> > seem to be implemented at roughly the same time, I've noticed.
> That may be true, but I think we'd be better off distinguishing between
> the two.
> Chat and movement are pretty orthogonal.
> > Login might be kinda boring...  Perhaps evidence of connecting to the
> > meta server (e.g., a listing of available games, with the one the
> client
> > supports made active for selection) might be better?
> Boring or not, it's a critical part of our MM*O*RPG identity.  (c: 
> Games that can
> connect to live servers will be much more interesting to new people, and
> we would
> serve them better to make that distinction crystal clear.
> > It might be worth considering having the screenshots involve some sort
> > of action.
> That's an interesting point, and is good general advice for setting up
> screenshots,
> but IMHO for the purposes of this screenshot table I think we should
> target
> specific generic functionality.  If we specify discrete actions for our
> screenshot
> categories, we risk limiting clients of other game genres.  If we have a
> "wading"
> category, how well will that map to sci-fi clients?  (And of course, if
> you were
> just giving generic advice on creating interesting shots, then disregard
> the above
> paragraph.)
> John
> --
> John R. Sheets, Consultant
> jsheets at mccaawebster.com
> McCaa, Webster & Associates, Inc.
> Writing GNOME Applications
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Hans Häggström (a.k.a. zzorn)

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