[WF-General] The Forums: a failed experiment
max.randor at googlemail.com
Sun Apr 29 12:32:49 PDT 2007
We have CGI IRC which is brings irc to the average web browser
and is also useful for getting irc in places where irc is not allowed :-)
simple machines was the setup that I thought looked best when I went looking.
On 29/04/07, Gabriel <gabriel at darknightpoetry.com> wrote:
> as for the problem with the irc-chat - how about integrating a java applet
> for irc on worldforge.org?
> even those who dont know or dont use irc would be able to get in touch with
> the community then.
> however, having forums is very important when it comes to projects like
> worldforge. you should consider different forum software.
> take a look at this one:
> for configuration: put account activation by email authentication online if
> you haven't done so already.
> should simplemachines not be what you are looking for (take a look at the
> features page), you will find a list of free and commercial discussion board
> software here:
> i hope this was of any help.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Havenner" <waythingsare at gmail.com>
> To: <general at worldforge.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [WF-General] The Forums: a failed experiment
> >I had the same exact problem with PHPBB in the past two years. Even if you
> > lock the forums, spammers will still register accounts by the hundreds. I
> > had a site just for three people to use and it was still a major problem.
> > I've used PHPBB for about 5 or so years and I've only seen this activity
> > in
> > the past 6 months. I think something is terribly wrong with the software
> > or
> > these spammers have learned the code too well.
> > In any case, can I recommend a social networking community as an
> > alternative
> > to PHPBB? Three years in eBusiness school and I can tell you without
> > hesitation that this is the future of web communication in both the
> > business
> > world and otherwise.
> > I've used elgg for a community and found it to be rich in features, stable
> > and free of spam. The "MySpace" approach is already familiar and with a
> > cause like Worldforge could make sense.
> > http://elgg.org/
> > On 4/29/07 5:06 AM, "Alistair Riddoch" <alriddoch at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> About 18 months ago I set up phpbb forum software on
> >> http://forums.worldforge.org/ as an experiment to see if we could
> >> build a community of people interested in WorldForge but not
> >> accustomed to using the communications tools used by developers. I
> >> also hoped that it would ease the burden on developers by allowing
> >> people who download and use the software help each other, rather than
> >> relying on direct support form the developers.
> >> Spam postings started to appear on the forums relatively quickly, and
> >> I made a few changes to the configuration of the forum software to try
> >> and mitigate the problem. I have consistently upgraded to the latest
> >> versions, and made all possible changes to the settings.
> >> While a thriving community seems to have built up around hacking and
> >> modding phpbb to prevent spammers having free reign, I can see no
> >> evidence that the authors of the software have any interest in
> >> adopting these features and changes into the software, so it remains
> >> by default so vulnerable to spammers that it is essentially useless.
> >> As a last ditch attempt at stopping this abuse, I have now made all
> >> account creation moderated. I don't really expect this to work, as I
> >> am unlikely to have time to be responsive enough.
> >> Going forward I see three options:
> >> 1) Start installing third party hack and mods for phpbb to make it
> >> less vulnerable.
> >> I am very reluctant to try this as the phpbb software is provided
> >> pre-installed by my ISP, and mods will break or be broken by their
> >> automated upgrade procedures. Unless someone else is prepared to take
> >> on the leg work of finding, preparing, auditing and testing mods, and
> >> passing them to me to install, then this option is not for me.
> >> 2) Install a different forums software package.
> >> This would require lots of manual work, as phpbb is the only option
> >> provided by my ISPs automated software install system. I don't know
> >> anything about other forum software packages, so would be entirely
> >> reliant on other people to track down the right package to use.
> >> 3) Abandon the forums to the spammers, and allow them to roam free.
> >> Not really an option, as the storage and bandwidth cost me money.
> >> 4) Shut the forums down.
> >> By far the easiest option. Unless there is a strong case to be made
> >> that the forums are currently providing a useful service to a
> >> reasonable number of people, this seems like the one we have to go
> >> for.
> >> Al
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