[WF-General] Linux issue?

David Felix felix.davidj at gmail.com
Tue Jan 20 06:00:59 PST 2015


Vt-x turned on in UEFI/BIOS? Aside from that, probably SDL issue, which
might require more debugging.

David J Felix
(513)-967-3543
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Marisa Giancarla <fstltna at me.com> wrote:

> I used the guest extensions, installed with the built-in menu option on
> the latest virtualbox so they match. It seems to be related to sdl, as it
> works fine till the 3d graphics start...
>
> Marisa
>
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> On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:18 PM, David Felix <felix.davidj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With 3d accelleration, are you using virtualbox guest additions? If so,
> how did you install them? Guest additions can be installed from virtual
> cdrom or via apt. The apt method typically has older, stable guest
> additions. The virtual cdrom may force a kernel upgrade, but they will
> match the host virtualbox version. In my experience, the following will
> work the best:
>
> * Install guest additions from ubuntu repo, determine version and download
> older virtualbox host to match version, reboot and import box there.
> * Install guest additions from virtual cdrom and force guest OS to build
> and upgrade kernel with new module, reboot the guest VM for changes to take
> effect.
>
> Mixing and matching will result in odd behavior. If you still believe it's
> a mouse issue, it's possible that it *is* the mouse if you're using a Mac
> magic mouse and virtualbox is exposing a trackpad interface to the guest.
>
> David J Felix
> (513)-967-3543
> felix.davidj at gmail.com
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Taben Yaroslav <
> yaroslav.taben at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> I also use Ubuntu, except without any issues. Maybe check mouse driver or
>> something? (The one in virtual machine)
>>
>>
>> Yaroslav
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Marisa Giancarla <fstltna at me.com> wrote:
>>
>> Im using ubuntu 14.04.
>>
>> Marisa
>>
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>>
>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Erik Ogenvik <erik at ogenvik.org> wrote:
>>
>> That is strange. It does indeed sound like an SDL issue, or something
>> further down the stack. Latest Ember uses SDL2. Tux Racer uses SDL1.
>> SDL is however one of the most stable and solid libraries around; if it's
>> reporting incorrect mouse data to Ember it might be that the issue lies
>> further down.
>> What Linux distro are you running in your VM? Might be that you'll have
>> more luck with a different one.
>>
>> /Erik
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-01-16 22:21 GMT+01:00 Marisa Giancarla <fstltna at me.com>:
>>
>>> Looked around but didn't turn anything up. I didn't think that the 3d
>>> accel was the cause, just that it seems to occur when 3d mode starts. The
>>> first window ember puts up (in github version) works fine. Perhaps it is a
>>> sdl issue, as tux racer does the same thing...
>>>
>>> Marisa
>>>
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>>> TinyRPG: http://TinyRPGGame.com
>>> Opensim City: https://OpensimCity.org
>>> Opensim Radio: http://radio.opensimcity.org:8188
>>> Empire Directory: https://EmpireDirectory.net
>>> Lugdunon City: https://LugdunonCity.org
>>> IndieDB: http://www.indiedb.com/company/pocketfiction-pocketgames4me
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Taben Yaroslav <
>>> yaroslav.taben at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> I doubt that the mouse issue has anything to do with 3D acceleration.
>>> It's just about the input. Did you try to find any articles about this?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yaroslav
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Marisa Giancarla <fstltna at me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I added the switch "-j1" to the build command and it compiles ember fine
>>> now. Too bad this didn't fix the mouse issue...
>>>
>>> Marisa
>>>
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>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marisagiancarla
>>> TinyRPG: http://TinyRPGGame.com
>>> Opensim City: https://OpensimCity.org
>>> Opensim Radio: http://radio.opensimcity.org:8188
>>> Empire Directory: https://EmpireDirectory.net
>>> Lugdunon City: https://LugdunonCity.org
>>> IndieDB: http://www.indiedb.com/company/pocketfiction-pocketgames4me
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:39 AM, Erik Ogenvik <erik at ogenvik.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> What errors are you getting when trying to build it?
>>>
>>> /Erik
>>>
>>> 2015-01-16 11:33 GMT+01:00 Marisa Giancarla <fstltna at me.com>:
>>>
>>>> No, it is with the linux ember from the main worldforge website as i
>>>> cant get it to build on either of my linux installations. Do you have one
>>>> you could send me? Here is my log file:
>>>>  Ember Log Output
>>>> <https://www.evernote.com/shard/s81/sh/467403f6-00e2-41da-9cf1-b193230bbbc9/5e1a8c7295babf8864073343120e5572>
>>>>
>>>> Marisa
>>>> ----
>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marisagiancarla
>>>> TinyRPG: http://TinyRPGGame.com
>>>> Opensim City: https://OpensimCity.org
>>>> Opensim Radio: http://radio.opensimcity.org:8188
>>>> Empire Directory: https://EmpireDirectory.net
>>>> Lugdunon City: https://LugdunonCity.org
>>>> IndieDB: http://www.indiedb.com/company/pocketfiction-pocketgames4me
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:30 AM, Erik Ogenvik <erik at ogenvik.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, and this is with running the latest version of Ember from Git?
>>>> Could you send me your ~/.ember/ember.log file?
>>>>
>>>> /Erik
>>>>
>>>> 2015-01-16 9:08 GMT+01:00 Marisa Giancarla <fstltna at me.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi. Im using vmware and other game apps seem to work fine. Also the
>>>>> ember screens come up and look ok and ogre correctly uses the renderer as
>>>>> hardware opengl. The ember loading screens and server selection screens
>>>>> appear fine, its just the mouse that is acting wonky once the ember screen
>>>>> comes up...
>>>>>
>>>>> Marisa
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
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>>>>> TinyRPG: http://TinyRPGGame.com
>>>>> Opensim City: https://OpensimCity.org
>>>>> Opensim Radio: http://radio.opensimcity.org:8188
>>>>> Empire Directory: https://EmpireDirectory.net
>>>>> Lugdunon City: https://LugdunonCity.org
>>>>> IndieDB: http://www.indiedb.com/company/pocketfiction-pocketgames4me
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:53 PM, Erik Ogenvik <erik at ogenvik.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Running in a virtual machine is problematic, since the 3d acceleration
>>>>> then often isn't handled by the graphic card but instead is done in
>>>>> software by the virtualization engine. And given the very complex nature of
>>>>> 3d graphics these days the software almost never provide enough features to
>>>>> make it work (not to speak of the performance).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, VirtualBox provides experimental support for exposing the
>>>>> native GPU. https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#guestadd-3d
>>>>> Is this what you're running?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Erik
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-01-16 0:22 GMT+01:00 Marisa Giancarla <fstltna at me.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Im trying to set up a linux vm to test ember, and I'm running into a
>>>>>> issue. The first time i ran it a ogre window appeared and asked me what
>>>>>> rendering engine i wanted to use. I selected opengl and the ember server
>>>>>> selector window appeared. But when i try to move the mouse it goes crazy.
>>>>>> Like it jumps between 4 or 5 places vertically and nowhere in-between. Has
>>>>>> anyone else seen this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marisa
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marisagiancarla
>>>>>> TinyRPG: http://TinyRPGGame.com
>>>>>> Opensim City: https://OpensimCity.org
>>>>>> Opensim Radio: http://radio.opensimcity.org:8188
>>>>>> Empire Directory: https://EmpireDirectory.net
>>>>>> Lugdunon City: https://LugdunonCity.org
>>>>>> IndieDB: http://www.indiedb.com/company/pocketfiction-pocketgames4me
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