[WF-Infra] Automatic CVS Account signup? (Was Re: We need a members database)

Bryce Harrington bryce at neptune.net
Wed Oct 3 18:20:44 PDT 2001

Along these lines...  Does anyone have ideas on how we could
add cvs users?  I can build in a capability into Eidetic that allows
people to request CVS accounts, and that takes care of getting them
added to the appropriate access file, if I know how to do it.  Let me
know and I'll look into getting it set up.

(I'm asking because OSDL needs a similar capability.)


On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Bryce Harrington wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Philippe Jadin wrote:
> > > Whew.  Anyway, to sum up - I think we'd get the best bang for the buck
> > > by doing the members database via Eidetic, with the data stored either
> > > in Postgresql (preference) or mysql, and with authentication controlled
> > > via Apache::AuthTicket.  If Zope can be made to handle this sort of
> > > setup, then I think it'd open a *lot* of potential.  Think it can be
> > > done?
> > 
> > 
> > What I like with your system is the fact that it is already usable with
> > other tools. In the case of zope, user authentification is a plugin, so
> > you can create your own kind of zope "user folder". There are several
> > zope products that do just this.
> > 
> > What would be the most zope-friendly, would be to use one of those
> > products, "mysqlUserFolder". This way we can use your tool for every
> > task outside zope, and use this user folder inside zope with the user
> > data coming from the same mysql database.
> > Here is a description from the documentation :
> > 
> > [mysqlUserFolder]
> > - Main function is to authenticate users and set their roles based on
> > data from the MySQL server.
> > - It keeps track of sessions (logging is supported).
> > - It allows reading and writing custom user and session data. These
> > informations are also kept in a MySQL table.
> > - It has methods that allow users to modify their accounts. It also
> > allows anonymous user creation (it allows users to create their accounts
> > over the internet). Also, folder's management interface allows user
> > management.
> > 
> > 
> > Only problem I guess, is the schema of the database used by
> > mysqlUserFolder which is probably not the same as yours. Anyway I
> > uploaded it there: http://moria.mit.edu:8080/media/sql/create_tables.txt
> > . What do you think about it?
> Hmm, structurally and architecturally they seem similar, but in details
> they're considerably different.  For example, the token system sounds
> roughly similar to the Apache::AuthTicket ticket system, but is probably
> completely incompatible.
> > This product seems pretty complete, with user activities loged, custom
> > roles, custom user properties, and support for sessions with a limited
> > lifetime...
> *Nod* this sounds very much like my system.  Session limits is built
> into Apache::AuthTicket, and timeouts are set in httpd.conf.  I have an
> extensible 'permission' table that is analogous to the custom roles.  I
> base permissions on 'resources' rather than 'realms', but I think the
> functionality is analogous.  I don't actually log user activities,
> though, but I guess it wouldn't be *too* hard to add, if we actually
> needed it (I am not sure we do though).  I don't have custom user
> properties implemented, but I plan to incorporate a general purpose
> database table management system eventually, that would allow for that
> (currently, extending database tables is just a matter of adding the
> field to the database table and updating the web forms, so even without
> this system it's pretty easy to add new user properties).
> > What do you think about it ?
> Judging from the SQL it looks like a pretty good system.  But Eidetic
> already provides most of this, and not in a compatible fashion.  If this
> system works with Zope, then I bet we could use it as a template for
> how to get Eidetic to be usable with Zope.  Zope capability for user
> accounting would be a wonderful feather in Eidetic's cap.
> Bryce
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